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	<title>Comments on: The future of programming? To provide the means for creating innovation.</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus Adair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Adair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard this lately too, and I agree, it&#039;s quite hollow when you consider the sheer value that&#039;s created despite the incessant complaining about programmers in general. Personally I think it&#039;s a red herring and that companies need to think about a whole lot more about how to have higher standards for middle managers and project managers more than anything else. The rarity in my experience of actually effective software development managers is unbelievable.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard this lately too, and I agree, it&#8217;s quite hollow when you consider the sheer value that&#8217;s created despite the incessant complaining about programmers in general. Personally I think it&#8217;s a red herring and that companies need to think about a whole lot more about how to have higher standards for middle managers and project managers more than anything else. The rarity in my experience of actually effective software development managers is unbelievable.
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		<title>By: Kevin Bedell on Internet Tech - The future of programming? To &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bedell on Internet Tech - The future of programming? To &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bedell on Internet Tech - The future of programming? To &#8230; - How To Get Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bedell on Internet Tech - The future of programming? To &#8230; - How To Get Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, it&#039;s an older article -- I ran across it posted to reddit tho just recently and didn&#039;t realize how old it was. (Note to self: never write new posts before coffee...)

Thanks for pointing this out -- but I&#039;ve heard a lot of similar criticisms more recently as well and I think the points are at somewhat relevant today. 

The earth is not as flat as the Friedmans would have us think. And closeness to the customer and the business context are attributes of a successful development effort that are too often overlooked as people simply focus on  per-hour labor costs.

Thanks for reading and for your comment -&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-6&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, it&#8217;s an older article &#8212; I ran across it posted to reddit tho just recently and didn&#8217;t realize how old it was. (Note to self: never write new posts before coffee&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing this out &#8212; but I&#8217;ve heard a lot of similar criticisms more recently as well and I think the points are at somewhat relevant today. </p>
<p>The earth is not as flat as the Friedmans would have us think. And closeness to the customer and the business context are attributes of a successful development effort that are too often overlooked as people simply focus on  per-hour labor costs.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading and for your comment -
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently? That article is from 2003! I thought we&#039;re in 2009 now.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-4&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently? That article is from 2003! I thought we&#8217;re in 2009 now.
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